Hi,

You can use UD's Grindhouse or other jumbo holed sharpeners.

Hope this helps.

Hi,

You do need a sharpener. UD makes a great one (Grindhouse) and there are others, too.

Hope this helps.

You need a sharpener with a large sized hole. UD makes one, Sephora makes one, and there are others.

Sharpener

You will need a sharpener.

You must sharpen these. The Grindhouse sharpener by UD has the opening size to fit these, and is the best sharpener out on the market! Doesn't chew up the pencil and waste product.

they need to be sharpened with a sharpener to advance them

You need a sharpener. I have UD's sharpener. It was included w/the limited edition 15 pencil eyeliner set. They do sell that sharpener by itself, it's less than $10. Worth it, that way you know for sure this pencil will fit in it. HTH!

You do need a sharpener, and you'd be wise to use UD's Grindhouse. That is the one shortcoming with these pencils, in my opinion. I would much prefer a twist up - less breakage, less hassle. But they are so terrific otherwise that I'm prepared to put up with this one flaw!

Sharpen. It is like a huge eye pencil but creamy in application

You need a sharpener for this. Urban Decay has one that is perfect for it called Grind House.

You need a sharpener.

You need a sharpener.

I have both Rehab and Underground and while they are sort of similar, they definitely are NOT the same - I like them both and wouldn't want either discontinued. I'm pretty sure some of these colors have been reformulated within the past year and that may be why a few commenters have said they are exactly the same but with different names. Maybe they really were the same when they were first introduced, but they definitely aren't the same now. I would recommend finding a store and swatching them -- or better yet, actually testing them on your eyes -- if possible, to get an idea of the difference.

If you can't swatch them in person, if you buy from Sephora you can always return it if you find it's too similar to another color you already have. For me, even a subtle difference in the tone or density can have a big impact on the overall effect, so it's worth giving them a quick comparison if you get a chance.

To me they feel the same, smooth and easy to apply. The shadow pencils are obviously more convenient if you want to use them all over your lid, as opposed to wasting 1/2 a regular liner each time. All of the colors coordinate to the regular liners as well, only the names are changed. Tip: the brush that UD sells specifically to apply it is not necessary. You can use any relatively firm eyeshadow or concealer brush to blend it.

I use both UD 24/7 liner pencils and shadow pencils and they do not feel the same to me. As smoothly as the pencils go on, the shadows seem creamier to me.

This is not a waste of money. I have both and use both frequently. I am not sure if they are the same formula, but they seem to be a little different. These pencils seem to be a bit creamier to make the transfer to the lid area much smoother than the liner pencils. Also, if you do it right away, you can blend them beautifully. I have tried to blend the liners with the same brush and it is much more difficult. Having that said, they both dry to a soft, smooth finish that don't crack or crease and stay for a very long time!

To me these seem smoother to apply and seem to have more pigmentation than some of the 24/7 liners. I've tried to use the liners as a quasi-shadow when traveling and they're a bit dry and thick when adding more layers. These feel a bit more luxurious when applying and feel light and airy (like no makeup) all day even though they look very dramatic.

Yes, they are the same - they might dry slightly slower. I use these as eyeliner and they work really well.

I have a bunch of their eyeliners but I'd still recommend getting the shadow pencils for an easy and quick eye look!

yes, these pencils work just as good as their 24/7 eyeliner counterparts!

Yes, I thought the very same thing, so I only bought 1, and it feels the same as the pencils

these are not the same. you would use these as eyeshadow. very pigmented & gorgeous!

I don't know if it's the same formula, but the application is definitely not the same. It would be hard to get the same smooth and soft effects you can get with this shadow pencil using the liner. I think it's slightly different, slightly more powder-y. I've got both, and I love them both.

UD's website states that the formulas are the same, but just in a chubby pencil. The colors are different from the 24/7's, though. Try Rehab, it's gorgeous!

I think they are similar, but a little bit more on the creamier side than the liner pencils. The colors are a bit different too, almost like they made the shadows to go with and compliment the liners. For example I bought the morphine (light purple) Shadow pencil and pair it with the Lust (deep purple) liner. They compliment each other well. I also tried using morphine shadow pencil as an all over and the lust liner for my outer corners and then blended to make neat shaded look-though the liner pencil is a bit harder to blend because it sets even faster than the shadow pencil. Hope this helps!!

They glide on super easily, just like all UD eye products.

Not in my experience. The "Glide On" reference in the product name has been accurate. I'm very happy with these pencils (and the eyeliners!). I have experienced no tugging or "skipping." They (shadow & liner pencils) glide right on like buttah!!! Love 'em!!!

No. It goes on super easy, no tug no pull like a cream. Then sets really fast and dries. If you mess up, you have to get out the heavy duty make up remover. Not blendable.

they are super soft, and no, you absolutely do not have to tug on your eye lids.

Not as soft as the new Buxom Sticks but not super hard either. Blends pretty good with the brush.

When I apply I dont even pull on my eye lid. They are very creamy.

nope, no pulling or tugging here. if it's cold where you live, warm it against the back of your hand to get it to go on like buttah :)

Yes, they are very soft and do not pull at all. I love them.

They do pull slightly, but not that bad. They are soft, but not supersoft. They are just a bigger, chunkier version of the 24/7 liners.

They are so soft and creamy , just like the 24/7 liners. No pulling or tugging.

They are just like the 24/7 liners, no pulling or tugging at all. Very smooth and creamy texture!

If you are familiar with the regular 24/7 liners, just match up the color descriptions. They are the same colors with different names.

Here's a tip....go to the Ulta website. They have a "color guarantee" which I don't know how they could live up to since everyone's monitor is different. Anyhoo, the colors on their website are more accurate; I know, because I have seen them all in person and compared. Then...go back to the Sephora website and buy with confidence!

To me the swatches look darker and not as vivid. The descriptions are a little off, too. Rehab is called a taupe, but looks like a cool sparkly brown on me. Deliquent is the most beautiful purple, too. Very rich.

I think they are pretty close to the real life swatches, though they do have a kind of iridescence and sheen to them that doesn't do them justice in the pics. I've included a pic below to try to help you out.

The swatches I have seen online were accurate when I went to swatch them personally. They are very bright colors, almost jewel like, super pigmented.

On my screen, the color swatches are pretty close. It's going to vary from screen to screen. Sorry I can't help you more than that, but it really does depend on your screen. Go ahead and get them, from Sephora, and if you don't like them, you can always return them. :) HTH!!

Your best bet for really good colour swatches is at Temptalia's site. The way these show there is absolutely how they look when you see them in store.

The colors were true when matched to the powder shadow version. Not sure about the swatch on Sephora site. They always seem off, and color looks different on your skin than in a swatch or even on your hand

Pretty close, I have a few and they look the same as on the website.

The sight is very accurate with the swatches.

Karen at Makeup and Beauty Blog swatched all of them and did comparisons - they're really accurate to the colors and make shopping for these online so much easier. Here's the link (and I hope Sephora leaves this post up because this is such a great resource): http://www.makeupandbeautyblog.com/product-reviews/urban-decay-spring-2011-i-tip-my-hat-to-the-new-247-glide-on-shadow-pencils/

Yes UD does sell a double sized sharpener to use to sharpen the UD Glide-on shadow pencils. I don't know if Sephora sells it yet but I do know that UD sells it on their website as well as Ulta had it, because that's where I bought mine. It's a purple double sized sharperner and I think it was $10! Hope this helps! : )

Urban Decay does make a sharpener. I actually like the one that Sephora sells. You can sharpen larger pencils and shorter ones. And it is a great price too! I have been using it for years with no problems!

Yes, Urban Decay's sharpener is big enough for this, as well as the 3$ Sephora Professional Dual Pencil Sharpener!

Yes there is a sharpener that sharpen these and the pencils

They fit any large hole sharpener. UD makes the Grindhouse sharpener which is a 2 hole (big and small size) which fits liners or big pencils.

I'm using sephora's big sharpener, it's the clear-ish plastic one for $3. I also used the shavings(put them on a tissue) and use an eyeliner brush for a more exact line.

I use this pencil to blend into almost anything... even powder. I like to layer it as a smokey base and then put my powders over the top. I almost always go back with the pencil and redifine my lash line and blend into the powder shadow I have used.

UD grind house sharpener goes through thick or thin with you! LOL!
Yes it sharpens this shadow pencil & UD concealer sticks, including eye/lip pencils too becos the sharpener has 2 holes built in.

The Urban Decay Grindhouse sharpener has a double barrel that will sharpen these and the regular 24/7 liners.

They have a special sharpener by urban decay that has a small hole and a big hole for both types of eye pencils. It is only like 10$, and if you get the 2 for 1 eyeliner pencil deal you can get a sharpener pretty much for free out of it because it comes with the two pencils :)

Hi,

In my experience, all have been good. I've also found that some of the liner pencils that are waterproof can do just as good a job and give the same effects. You might want to go to Sephora and try a few out. Wear a swatch on the top of your hand to see how long it would last.

Hope this helps.

These have phenomenal staying power, in my opinion, well worth the $20.

They are really worth the steep price...which isn't so steep after all, considering they last for 100 years! They do last a long time though; I have had one color for so long that I can't remember when I bought it. The formula is so easy to apply, even though it is completely waterproof. Amazing.

These are SUCH a better quality pencil. I have used the Sephora ones because I wasn't impressed with the NARS brand for what I was paying for it. I liked the Sephora ones okay but hated how they rubbed off so easily. They just always stayed too creamy and with having allergies I touch my eyes often on accident and before you know it my makeup was almost gone. These start out barely creamy going on to the lid and then dry to a smooth velvety finish that feels so soft and almost powdery, but does not stray or crease from your lid. If you love jumbo pencils, try one and you can always return it if you're not impressed!

I love these pencils and have no trouble with them at all! I find that you get what you pay for. I have used other brands that are priced low and they do not compare to the quality of UD!

The sephora jumbo pencils, like the NYX jumbo pencils, do not dry down and always smudge, because they are cheap products. The sephora jumbo pencils are a bad buy. If one must go the budget route, buy the NYX jumbo pencils ($2/each) as they are the same quality as the sephora, just much cheaper.

This product is far superior because it, like all urban decay makeup, dries down and will not budge or smudge and retains its brightness all day. However, you pay for that , it's 10 times the price as a NYX pencil.

Super duper duper size the pencil and you have the size of this (about the size of dime). It is like a huge crayon, that is super creamy, you sharpen when you need more product, goes on THICK one or two strokes and your eyelid is fully covered. Best be sure that is the color you want for the day, as you can't blend and you would have to use eye make up remover (heavy duty stuff) to re do. You need to be sure you want this specific color on your eye and where. Test in store. It is a one shot deal. Great if you know exactly what you want to look like ....apply and go. Horrible if you find out you want to blend or look a bit different or change colors or find it too flashy etc.

in my experience these are much more crease resistant than the sephora pencils. those crease on me after a few hours unless i wear UDPP underneath and set them with a powder shadow on top; these can be worn alone and stay on all day :) definitely worth the extra $$ :)

I think the ud pencils are worth every penny. They are highly pigmented and the colors are amazingn with awesome staying power. Even though they are $20 they last me a couple of months. Hope this helps

Sin would be the best subtle brow highlighter. Midnight Cowboy is glittery and Lit is more gold/ bronzy. All 3 are beautiful though.

I wouldn't use Midnight Cowboy as a brow pencil, it has glitter! I like either Sin or Lit, for me Lit would be better. I'm not sure I would use Wasteland a brow pencil, I'd use an Anastasia Brow pencil- they come in more shades for a better match.

Midnight Cowboy is more of a gold tone, the Sin is nude (my favorite). I am unsure of the other, but the third choice is normally pink toned but can be non-shimmer.

Hey there....i agree with the lovely lady above. Wasteland is a dark brown but does have a greenish cast to it. VERY gorgeous in my opionion. I cover my entire lower lid with it and then accent it with the NARC color. I pop this shade in the middle of the lid and blend. = )

As far as a highlighter, go with Sin. Lit is WAYYY too gold to be used as a 'subtle highlighter' and Midnight Cowboy is beautiful but full of silver glitter (not subtle at all). Sin is very close to MC in color, but is smooth and beautiful!

As far as a dark brown, Wasteland is not olivey at all. It is like a very dark chocolatey brown. Rehab is also very pretty (not exactly taupe). It has a little coppery richness to it IMO and I bought it because I thought it would fade out better into a smokey eye than Wasteland would just because it's not SOO dark. Both beautiful colors!

Wasteland is more of a darker brown, not olive. I think it is very pretty and I would probably choose sin for a highlighter because I got midnight cowboy for that reason but its got some major sparkles kinda, so it might be a little much if you are looking for subtle.

I myself use this as a brow highlighter and it works nice.. Use it then smudge it a little bit... It is soooo nice...

There was for a set of five (called 24/7 Glide-On Shadow Pencil Stash), and it was on sale for 12 bucks just two weeks ago. I bought it. Lucked out, sold really fast. Had Crash, Sin, Delinquent, Rehab, Wasteland. Hope they release more sets!

I have been loving Urban Decay for a long time. I am not a professional but from having a love relationship with this makeup I can tell you from my experience they probably won't make a set of all the shadow pencils until maybe Christmas time if we are lucky. Since they are so new. It took them about two years to make a full set of the eye liners.

At this time I do not know of any sets containing the shadow pencils. There are various sets that contain the 24/7 pencils

On UD's site, pencils refers to the liners. There isn't a set of these shadow pencils yet, though I hope UD does issue one as part of their 15yr anniversary. Sadly, I think that if they do issue a set, it will be as hard to get as the NAKED palette, since everyone will want one!

I don't think there is a shadow pencil set because it is a new product but I sure hope they make one!

Eye pencil is the small one, the actual eye liner and not shadow. UD will specifically state that the product is shadow and the sets they sell are normally in pencil form.

There is a small set of mini eye liner pencils on the UD website. But no set of eye shadow pencils (...yet...)

When I do my make up I always use a light colored powder first. I love to sparkle! Then I use the shadow pencils on top. I blend them with my fingers because whenever I try with brushes it never works out so well. These shadow pencils are so easy to use! Once you play around with them I hope you will be just as in love as I am. =)

Yup, I use them with powder. Powder on top or on top of powder. They look lovely and glide on easily either way. You'll really like them. :)

If I use shadow pencil all over lid, I blend the crease out with a powder shadow and it fades nicely. Especially with sin eye primer!

I have blended these with powders, creams and other pencils very easily. Enjoy!

I would use them as a base, they don't blend well into powder, though you can put powder over them.

I don't feel it blends well. After a few seconds it is "dry" and stays put.

I blend these with regular powder, totally.

It is brighter and GLITTERY. A true jewel color. However if I had to choose between the two I'd say it's closer to Ransom in that it doesn't have the blue undertone that Lust has.

The delinquent color is a dark plum purple. I love it better than the eye liners. Goes on smooth and very vibrant! I like to use Delinquent and Morphine together. Morphine makes you look like you are glowing! Love it!

The delinquent color is bold and bright like Ransom to me. It works well blended or alone.

It's closer to the Lust eye pencil, which is my favorite pencil.

Yes it's intense color. I'd say its similar to ransom, with a subtle purple sparkle in it. I like to layer UD shadow 'fish net' over it. Comes out really pretty.

has a little bit a sparkle, just enough. And oh yeah, it's purple! Great pigment!

It is an incredibly bright and vibrant purple shade. One of my favorites. It reminds me of randoms only with a little more metallic shimmer.