Yes I have used it as an "Inner Liner", however because it is a liquid it is hard to initially get it on because it mixes with your tears quickly. But if you do get it on without touching your tears, it DOES stay...but NOT as long as it does on the outer eyelids.

i wouldnt do a liquid on inner rim. urban decay 24/7 liner didnt cut it?? works great for me. i usually swipe a concealer brush in a finishing or make up powder then right along the inner rim to keep the liner in place.

Yes, I just tried - it did not work for me. I use liner every day on my lower, inner lid, and just on top for special occasions. This wouldn't even stay on the inner lid, and smudged right into my eye, leaving black crud and making my contact lenses sting.

yes u can work wit it inside eye

I wouldn't use this for an inner rim liner, it's really best along your upper lid/lash line. I've not used this for the bottom lid as much because it doesn't stick as well there.

I've had good luck with the Stila Stay All Day Waterproof Liquid Eyeliner. I've never found another eyeliner that doesn't disappear immediately, or worse, end up in smudges under my eyes. This one is really easy to use and it lasts longer than anything else I've tried (even 10 hours of staring at a computer with watery eyes followed by a 2 hour sweaty acrobatics class). Sometimes it's even tough to wash off at night, but I see that as a plus!

I don't know of any other liners that are thicker. However, I've tried tilting this liner to the side so that when you're drawing a line on your lid, the thicker part of the tip touches your lid instead of the very tip, which gives a thicker line. Hope that helps.

if you hold it more at an angle, you can get a thicker line. I apply it that way.

I truly love love love this product, but if you really want a thicker tip I'd try the Calligraphy pen from Hourglass. That one is not as black though.

Benefit has their magic ink eyeliner that is SUPER black, but it is not in a pen form.

I don't know a specific liner, however, with this liner if you press a little harder and use it on more of a slant, the line comes out thicker.

Shiseido makes an eyeliner pen with refillable cartridges. I used to use it and as I recall the brush is a bit thicker. However, the ink isn't quite as black. You might try that though.

For Thicker lines try holding the wand/pen slightly on its side instead of straight on or using just the tip. You are correct that you could also go over your line until thicker...as for the lines on each eye not being even...try using a disposable dual ended make-up cotton swab (Q-Tip) like they have in the store, just use the pointed cotton end and moisten with a little water and "Touch up" your lines. As for another product that is similar but with a thicker brush? I know of NONE, but surely would like to know? Even though I adore this product!

this eyeliner DOES last all day. I wore this through a horrible crying session and it actually stayed on through the entire thing. It lasts all day. I wore it to school during finals and even during all the stress, when i was rubbing my eyes, it stayed on! It's fantastic.

Yes. You will probs only need to touch up once of twice. Just keep it handy!

Stila is your product for sure! A keeper

I wouldnt do this on the waterline. Try Urban Decay 24/7 pencils, they are awesome for the waterline!

I don't think this eyeliner is the right liner for the water line its more of an on the actual lid kind of eyeliner. I've tried to but it on my water line and it really doesn't show up and eventually fades from the water line you should probably look into a different liner if u want to use it in your water line. This eyeliners is great for a cat eye look.

Yes, It lasts for at least 12 hours

Black. I have brown eyes and they really make them defined and stand out. But it all depends on how you are going to be using this product.

I personally love black eyeliner with every makeup I wear. It makes all colors stand out so well.

i Have Brown Hazel eyes and I love the Intense Black, Looks so Classy and makes your eyelashes look dark at the roots.

Brown eyes look great with any color but blue really makes them pop, especially when you use black on top & an indigo or teal blue pencil on the lower waterline.

If you want more of a pop, I would go with the blsck.

Pop--I don't know, but smoky and hot, yes!

I've showered with it and it didn't bleed or smudge.

I've used this eyeliner in a pool, jacuzzi, and sauna and it stayed on all day. It didn't even smudge, and it stayed on all day without me having to reapply it.

It really depends on your skin type I have to say. For me, I have oily lids and usually liquid eyeliners that I've tried from the drugstores and other high end products have always given me raccoon eyes because of my oily lids. With this product, it stays kaput. I've worn it out in the rain (I mean like raining cats and dogs without an umbrella) plenty of times and I've never had a problem with it smearing or running down or anything. But I've never used it while in a pool. This is just my personal experience with it and it says what it does, its waterproof and long lasting. Hope this helps!

DEFINITELY. i have the BEST oil based eye makeup remover and this was even hard to remove!!!

absolutely! I wouldn't steer a sister wrong. I can't help on the mascara, but this stuff will not smudge, even if you wipe the towel across your face. In fact, you might find it a little tough to get off at night, so bring a good makeup remover. Carbon black is awesome. The gray is great, just a little more subtle if you're trying to make it look like you're NOT wearing makeup.

You can get it wet, but don't wipe! I would just dab around your eyes or it will smear.

It dries out completely after an hour. Don't leave it out at all! It used it twice a day for six months and then it ran out, so I would say it lasts long.

I've had my black liner for over a month and it's still great. I don't use it everyday, but at least 3 times a week.

I have not had an issue with it drying up..I store it felt tip down. This product is superior to any drug store brand...don't waste your money on cheaper brands.

yes, it takes a couple of seconds for it to dry. (no more than 5 seconds)

Hi -

Mine has not dried out. I've had it for over a month ;)

I use this for a cat eye most of the time, and I usually have the same tube for about 4 months. It seems a lot more expensive than drug store brands, but well worth the money.

I have allergies and mess with my eyes constantly. I had noticed with NARS and Buxom that the inner corner of my eye would be void of makeup/eyeliner by lunch time. I have NOT noticed that to be true with the Stila eyeliner.
Now mind you, when my allergies are in full blown attack mode and I rub the heck out of my eyes, the eyeliner does end up coming off. But I really can't fault Stila for that. Normal eye rubs or touches and you should be fine!

It does not rub off at all. When I don't get it on correctly I have to wash it off and start over.

I did not find that to be true. like the tip. makes dotting the line easier.

I still use Laura Mercier Coffee Ground eye shadow and a wet angle brush to use as my eyeliner. then I put the Stila over it. stays pretty well

That's not my experience, but I have drier skin, so perhaps someone with oilier skin experiences that "bleed over". It dries quickly and then I cover it with powder shadow. I have applied some cream shadows over this eyeliner, so of course that's going to loosen or smear it. If I plan to use cream shadow, I use Laura Mercier's Caviar Stick liner/shadow. If I plan to use powder shadow, I use Stila's liquid eyeliner.

No, this eyeliner will not smudge or rub off onto your eyelids. It is so long lasting that sometimes I forget to take it off before I go to bed, and when I wake up it still looks fresh and crisp. I hope this helps.

No

I would take it back and see if they'll give you a different one. I've never had trouble with mine.

Sounds like you may just have a bad tube. I only have to use one coat and its really dark. I do shake it sometimes but never knew if that actually helped. If its new I'd exchange it.

you don't need to shake this at all. the cap clicks on the stick, which brings up more color to the top to apply.

I have the black one and it works just fine. If yours is taking 3-4 coats I think you got a bad one and you should exchange it for a new one.

Is this a new eyeliner? Maybe it's just been used too much? Or if it's brand new and still acting this way, I'd take it back. I rarely even have to shake mine!

I don't shake mine and I haven't had any trouble so far. Sorry I can't be more help.

I doubt it, mine comes off with just my eyes watering.

I haven't used this swimming but it lasted through Las Vegas heat in June walking the strip all day without running!

After a full day of running around in the heat at work (doing shipping and receiving) I have no problem with my eyeliner smudging or fading. I have yet to try it in water, but I have to use eye makeup remover to get it off because water won't do it.

I don't know about swimming, but it really stood up to sweat! Just make sure you don't start off sweaty when you apply it, or have sunscreen on. When I had lotion on my face, it tended to bleed a little from the oils in the lotion, but on clean, dry skin, after it had set (about 20 seconds) it seemed to stay on no matter what I did. I wore it all night dancing, and it never ran or flaked.

Not sure about the pool but will definitely last you all day long! Try some primer as well for extra strength protection.

This is as waterproof as any eyeliner I have ever used. Not sure about water sports as I dont wear eyeliner to the beach, but it would be the best bet from many brands I have tried.

A pencil in my opinion is best for your waterline and for smudging and creating a smokey eye. A gel liner is good for your lid but I find it begins to flake and fade out as the day progresses. A liquid is also good for your lid, I would go with a liquid liner that has a felt tip instead of a brush so you can get more precision. Hope this helps ;)

Liquid pen for sure! I like the precision of liquid pencil pens as opposed to using creams with a brush. I can't get a dark enough colour with just a normal eyeliner pencil.

I would say pencil is easiest to apply, but usually more easily smudged. Liquid eyeliner are usually more smudgeproof - the stila one, at least! (it's my go-to) but can be a bit more difficult than pencil. However, stila was the first liquid eyeliner I purchased after using 2 years of eyeliner pencil from Make Up Forever and I found it quite easy to apply!! Hope this helps :)

I've used them all, and it depends not only on what kind of look you are going for, but also the applicator. For different looks: Liquid (my favorite) tends to be more defined, pencil easier for smokey eye looks because it is smudgeable, and gel can be used for either. Gel is harder to get defined line out of though. As for applicators, look for a sponge-like or felt-tipped applicator for liquid, pencils tend to dull quickly, so find one that doesn't, and for gels, use an angled eyeliner brush.

I prefer liquid, easier to put on, lasts longer and doesn't "cake".

I have a hard time applying liquids... I think they are definitely the most difficult. A good pencil is easy to do basic eyeliner. I like the gel pots for cat eye--- they are easier to apply to me than liquid. Just depends on what type of application you are going for: natural-- pencil, dramatic- gel pot-- that is how I do it.