I used this liner with the UD primer potion every time I applied it. It's most likely that the liner itself is running low. When mine started to run low, I almost had to press down harder with the pen to get enough ink out of it. There's nothing wrong with the primer, though.

I use the Stila prime pot waterproof eye shadow primer under my shadow and the Stila eyeliner. I have no problem and both liner and shadow last all day.

I use UD primer, I do not have a problem with the liner but it could be because I put shadow onto of the primer and then the liner.

If it's not working well with other products (which it should) you might not be waiting until the UD primer is dry. Apply the UD primer first, then continue your makeup on the rest of your face and then go back and put your liner on once the primer is dry. If that doesn't work, then there could be something in either product that makes it not work well with the other.

I had the same problem and discovered it was just because the liner was running low.

Your could be running low on the product. Same thing happened to me, it's a great liner but tends to dry out pretty quickly!

Sounds like the liner is drying out. I used the same primer and it was never an issue until it started drying out, at which point going over the same area seemed to remove product rather than deposit it.

i haven't had that particular problem, but i am guessing this eyeliner would work better with the stila prime pot than Urban Decay primer, which I also have and use with this liner, and i suspect was the reason the liner would start to smudge in the corners of my eyes by the end of day.

I'm extremely pale (my friends say my skin tone is "neon white") and I have green/hazel eyes. I've always worn black eyeliner. I find that brown doesn't go very well with my eyes, but grey looks okay. I'd say go with the black. As long as you don't overdo the line and make it TOO thick it should be fine (:

I think because of your skin color (light/pale) you should go for the BROWN! It will still be dark, but not so harsh in bright lights, however, in dim lights I don't think it would make much of a differrence.

I have blue eyes and pale skin and it makes my eyes pop. It doesnt look overly harsh at all.

I would go more bronzy brown. No taupe or grey brown. A little shimmer is always great too.

I'm pale and have green eyes ... and I use the black. This isn't the kind of eyeliner you smudge, its the kind you apply in either a thin or bold cat eye effect ... and it looks really beautiful in black against a green eye. I tend to make the rest of my face very natural and understated, so its nice to have the eyes really pop.

Yup. It would definitely be too harsh of a color. It's too harsh on my skin and I have slightly darker than "medium" skin with brown eyes and I think black is too harsh on me.

I'm very pale and LOVE this liner. It gives my eyes a great classy look with a bold black line. The felt tip also allows you to make a very thin line for a more natural look.

Matte

It has a matte finish with a little bit of shine but not enough shine to be really noticeable.

Mostly matte--there isn't any glitter.

hi! Its definitely matte with no shine at all and looks great. If you want shine or glitter I suggest getting this liner and putting on the Lorac 3D Liquid Lustre on top. The shine and glitter last all day and night long and you can add as little or much as you want. Good luck :)

I think this provides a shinier finish...definitely not matte.

It's a matte finish.

Matte finish

I have never had it run at all, even on very long days.

Not sure; I've only tried pencils on my waterline & they always bleed. If you give this product about 15 seconds to dry, it would probably hold up very well. It's good stuff!

It has never ran from my waterline before, but I usually prefer to use a pencil liner there. When this eyeliner comes off, it doesn't come off as smudges or panda eyes, it seems like it PEELS off. So I'd be careful. (:

no this one does not run. i bought it because the other eye liner i always stuck to wasnt available and was so sure i would return it, but its stays on all day and i was sooooo impressed with it. i have very long days too and at the end of the day i look in the mirror and its still put and perfect the way i put it on as of the morning. give it a try. wont hurt. u will love this product. i love it and i let a co-worker use it once and like i thought, she asked me the next day "were did u get it?" i love it....

This product is not recommended for the waterline. Although I use and LOVE it for the upper lids, when I line the waterline, I apply the MAKEUP FOREVER cream pot liner with an angle brush--to the top and bottom--and it lasts all day long.

I have to use waterproof liner and mascara (very wet eyes) and this liner is one of the best I've ever found. At the end of the day, the lines at the corners are still sharp, the undereye line hasn't smudged.

No

No.

this item could be used on the inner rim if you choose put it definitely takes a extremely skilled hand & may rub off easy. a pencil may be best of the inner (water) rim/line.

Depends on how even your hand is and how sensitive your eyes are. Mine are about average, and if I carefully apply it to my waterline and pull it away from my eye to wipe any excess from the eyeball side of the waterline, I'm fine. However, the tip is fine enough that you can go right under your lashes and still get it extremely close. Also, when lining on top, it's harder to pull your lid away to wipe any excess from the top, so occasionally the tip has gotten so close I've gotten a bit in my eyes and irritated them - but I guess that's the price you pay for a super precise liner that gets incredibly close to the lashes! Hope this helps.

I tried using it once on my inner rims and wasn't very successful. I would choose a hard liner over this for inner rims.

I found it more difficult to apply this eye liner the inner rim of my eyes. I don't know if it is because the top lip is dry vs the inner rim being a bit moist.

I have used it on the inner rims and I am a contact wearer. You will love this!!!!!!

I'm on my second pen and it's been almost a year since I first tried this. I'd say using it everyday it will last about 3 months. My first pen didn't even totally dry out, I threw it away after 3 months when the product wouldn't flow as well as it originally did and I'd have to go over the line twice. It seems to me like the tip wore out before the product was used up...Basically it's a great value!

not the best product for smudging, I like a very precise line, with extending outward from the eye corner. Dries quickly and stays put, so, if you want smudges, should probably pick a different liner.

I just bought mine so I don't know how long it lasts with daily use, BUT I can tell you that it does NOT smudge at the outer corner of the eye :)

the product does have a tendency to smug in the corners of ur eye but only if you rub it or in extremely heat. the product last about 6-8 weeks total before you would need to get another.

I have been using it for 2 weeks now........god I hope I don't run oiut now that I said that. This is the first time I have brought this product. I LOVE IT.

The pen has lasted me about 3-4 months (I use it probably 4x a week on my upper lids only). I would assume it would last you about 2-3 months if you use it everyday.

It does not smudge on the upper lid, but if it gets wet (ex. if you use it on your lower/upper rim) it bleeds - and I found that it got in my eye and stung. If you put it closer to your lash line, you should be OK.

Very easy if you're comfortable holding a pen or pencil, it's shaped just like one.

I think its very easy to use, but I let my mother use it and she found it difficult to apply since she doesn't have a very steady hand. I also bought toikidoki perfetto eyeliner which is a very dollars less and works just as welll, only thing different is that the applicators are not the same but my mother found that to be much easier to apply.

It definitely takes pratice to learn how to properly put it on, plus what type of style & thickness you like. But once you master that totally easy.

Very easy. It does help to have a steady hand, but the fact that you can smudge it and try again and again while it is still wet, makes it pretty darn easy to get it right.

This product is about as easy to use as it gets for liquid eyeliners. First, it comes as a felt tip pen, not a brush, so you have a much finer tip that is a bit stiffer and so far easier to control. Second, you are getting a perfectly even color flow with no redipping necessary, as with a brush. Third, it's easy to store - just keep it capped, and it's very skinny. I find the length great for my hands. Hope this helps!

Extremely simple

I think it really depends on what your eyeliner style is. I used this for mostly for tightlining my upper lashline and quick smudging on my lower lashline (to prevent crazy smudging from my cream-based liners), and I actually had to trash my pen because I used it for 1 year straight (hygienic reasons).
But if you're into thicker eyeliner styles like w/ cat eyes and whatnot, it'll probably last you minimum 2 months - more like 3 or 4 months though.

I'd say it lasts for a day (and through the night) until you decide to take it off. I'm guilty of re-using the same application the next morning for a hungover breakfast get-together, and it STILL looked good.

About 3-4 months, if you use it every day.

Mine lasted only two-three months, but I've heard from others that theirs lasted much longer. I also only use it on my upper lid.

i get about 2-3 months of use (I use it every day on my upper lid)

It lasts about six months for me and I use it on the top and bottom of my lids

It's very easy to use for a first time. Most felt tip liquid eyeliners are.

This is very easy to use for anyone. It's like drawing a line with a pen, goes on smoothly and evenly.

Yes, I would say it would be a good starter.

I think it's easier to use because it goes on so smoothly. Just don't apply too much pressure or else you'll too much on. But it has a very fine brush like tip thats great for applying a thin or a thick line.

I would say it is def user friendly as far as liquid liner goes but that being said it still helps to have a steady hand!

Yes, I think that this would be the best thing to try as a first timer. I'm not very experienced with the whole liquid thing, and I can get really great results with ease. Just practice a few times first and you'll be fine =)

I'm not sure about all over the eyelid smoky looks, but I always smudge this on my lower lash line to prevent a "drawn on" look. As soon as I apply the liner, I immediately take a flat/push brush and brush out the ink. You have about 3 seconds to smudge before it completely sets. You'll get the hang of it though! No worries.

Immediately after applying, while the product is still wet, smudge it with a Q-tip.

This actually is more of a precise liner; the product is basically ink-like and it dries fast, so if you mean to smudge the liner and create the smokey effect that way, my answer is, no. However, if you create the smokey look with other products and use this liner, this will definately give you a sharp, clean, dramatic, and bold line top and bottom that will last all day long :)

I would not use this product for a smokey eye look. It's a precision tip liner, and stays put, imagine you are using a pen to line your lids. This is a product that dries right after applying.

I don't think this would be smudgable -it dries really quick which is one of its pluses for easy and precise application.

Personally, I don't ever "smudge" eyeliner. I think it takes away from the richness of the liner. I apply a lighter eye shadow, then apply the liner. once the liner has dried (10 seconds...very quick!), I use a brush to smudge dark eyeshadow on the line, making it thicker and darker towards the outside. the trick is to blend between colors so you don't get harsh lines between the light color of the eyeshadow, the dark of the liner and the smudging color.